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Old 25th May 2020, 07:54   #1
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Dear Moderators & Administrators,

First, I wish to thank you for managing a very active and supportive forum. I know many of you spend a lot of time helping to run this site and all the members appreciate your efforts.

I wish to request a small policy change to how this forum is run that I believe would make me and other members very happy. I saw the post at http://di-van-plus.ru/showpost.p...&postcount=571 where 17 threads from the Group Models section were removed from this forum at the request of the claimed copyright owners. Now I fully understand why you had to remove the threads (the threat of a possible lawsuit, etc.) and I agree this was the correct action to take. However, the fact is that some of these threads had dozens of pages with many working links and in the future I was planning to go through some of them and download the content I was interested in. Sadly, this will now not be possible, but I have a potential solution to this dilemma.

Going forward, in the future after you have received a thread removal request from a claimed copyright owner, instead of immediately deleting the thread and then posting about this deletion, how about you add a post to the "Threads Removed" thread saying that you have received a removal request and that the named specified thread will be deleted in 12 (or 24 hours). After this time has elapsed, you would follow the current procedure and delete the threads and post that they have been deleted. By giving us members advance notice of a few hours before a thread is deleted, you would give us a chance to go thru the specific threads set to be removed and save any webpages or links we want to download in the future.

Basically, my suggestion is just to give us members 12 (or 24 hours) advance notice of which threads will be removed so we can quickly review them before they are deleted forever.

Please give my suggestion some consideration in the future and let me know if you have any questions. Thank you.

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Old 25th May 2020, 08:49   #2
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Hi giffordal.

I will be honest, if this role paid, what you have just asked is well above whatever my pay grade would be.

Having said that, playing 'devil's advocate' here:

I don't know how long it actually takes for us to 'action' a DMCA notification, they are, at least so far as I understand it; sent to the site owner (or their legal representative), checked and then forwarded to the admins for actioning.

I would never consider doing what you suggest, for two reasons.


1: To the people filing the copyright claims you are sticking out a big 'fuck you' notice by turning around and in effect saying 'get it before its gone' in response to a DMCA filing.

To my mind, that's a pretty good way to ensure PlanetSuzy, and its sister sites, receive a lot more DMCA attention, just to 'make an example' of us.

Therefore, even if what you suggest is something that we could get away with, the risk of slapping a big target on our back isn't worth it.

Which leads me nicely to:
2: Only the site owner could really make that kind of a decision, it is after all risking getting us closed down.

Just my tuppence worth's.

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Gwynd,

Thanks for your reply. I do understand the arguments you make. I know the people who run this forum are already swamped with work and I don't want to create more work for them but is there something else that can be done here?

If placing a post in the ""Threads Removed" section that a thread will be deleted in a few hours is too public, can we do something else? Perhaps create a private message list where members who sign up for this list would get a few hours advance notice about a thread deletion which would only appear in their private messages. This would give members who were interested advance warning but would not be public.

I'm just trying to think of alternate solutions on how to handle this situation. I'm sure you can sympathize with me that to have 17 incredible threads removed without notice like the ones that were removed on May 17 was disheartening (although I agree it was the correct decision). I don't want to create more work for anyone, but I feel that perhaps something like a private messaging system might solve this issue.

Thank you for your consideration.
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Staff at this forum does not receive any advance notice of threads that may be removed so there is no way for us to give advance notice.

Our only involvement is to immediately remove anything that we are told to remove without delay.

If you wish to still even have a forum to be a member of, this will not change.

Please accept this as the final word on this and move on.

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