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Old 25th March 2020, 02:35  

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Bullshit, I don't want doom and gloom but I also don't want people to "go all all FOX News" on us!!!
I am so "anti Fox News" meaning I am pro science, pro future. Jake Glanville, the video I posted, is pro science. That video is from CNBC not Fox. I don't watch Fox News or Fox Business, ever.

He is a recipient of the Gates (Bill Gates) Foundation Grand Challenge "Ending the Pandemic Threat" for his broad-spectrum vaccine technology, the history of that project recorded in the Netflix series "Pandemic: How to Prevent an Outbreak."

Jake Glanville is the future of the fight against viruses.

Maybe you should reconsider the video, or at least watch it this time.

For the record, as if it matters, CNN and MSNBC are worn out on my remote. I wouldn't know if he has been on Fox?
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My heart goes out to my American friends, knowing they have to live with people as crazy as these:

A suit has been filed in a Texas District Court in the US seeking compensatory damages of over $20 trillion US Dollars against China for the “creation and release, accidental or otherwise” of the Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19) as a biological weapon in violation of China’s International obligations.
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Let's not get into arguments about doom, gloom, or what might offer a glimmer of hope during this mess.

Please qualify any news of possible trials and potential breakthroughs that could come from experts researching these therapies with source material if possible.

There are too many rumors and falsehoods circulating as it is and if you say that this or that will put a quick end to this problem, people will tend to relax their guard and that will make this worse.

There are a great number of researchers trying to attack this virus from all different methods and angles to try to kill it or reduce the effects that it may have on everyone. There are some methods that are already being tried to see if they have the desired effect so be assured that there are dedicated smart professionals that would die trying to help each and every one of you on this planet.

The issue is that they need to know if these therapies work on humans without causing other consequences that could effectively kill more people than they are trying to save and these people care very much about saving as many people as possible. At this point there is no magic bullet that helps reduce the severity of this or stop it completely, so do what the experts say and protect yourselves and your families and friends.

An example of dedication, try to give your kid who is on the front lines and pissed off and practically crying when she gets home from working ridiculous hours just running as many tests for this as she can an answer when she asks you "why the fuck didn't someone give us what we needed to get this up and running sooner so we could track this thing and target the response". The people involved in combating this aren't in it for the money, they're in it because they care and saying that something will fix everything immediately will make all jobs on the front lines protecting each and every one of you impossible to keep up with if anyone believes there is an immediate fix for this.

Updates on current research and trials will give hope but do not make anyone think it will help the current situation immediately unless some miracle occurs.
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The Lancet. "COVID-19: consider cytokine storm syndromes and immunosuppression". "As of March 12, 2020, coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) has been confirmed in 125 048 people worldwide, carrying a mortality of approximately 3·7%,1 compared with a mortality rate of less than 1% from influenza. There is an urgent need for effective treatment. Current focus has been on the development of novel therapeutics, including antivirals and vaccines. Accumulating evidence suggests that a subgroup of patients with severe COVID-19 might have a cytokine storm syndrome. We recommend identification and treatment of hyperinflammation using existing, approved therapies with proven safety profiles to address the immediate need to reduce the rising mortality.........."end quote. In some people, the body's response is what kills. This is a sub cohort, it is not the only way that people suffer severely and die from the virus. The next question is this: How do homo sapiens vary from bats as hosts of covid 19? Are those individuals closest to the biochemistry of bats the least vulnerable? remembering that bats are mammals. The only ones that fly. Which takes a lot of energy? What is the base rate of metabolism of bats compared to humans? Is this base rate of metabolism the same for all age ranges of humans? It's quite easy to find these things out if one chooses. What substances can attenuate cytokine storm? [
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People's biochemistry varies. we are individuals. there is no blanket treatment. Treatment (as opposed from emergency interventions) have to be personalised. Habitual thinking will not solve the problem. Neither will ideological thinking. While well, Im trying to be as well as possible, and that includes doing physical work which induces normal everyday inflammation. The endocrine system needs to be healthy. as does every other system. Taking anti-inflammatories may be counter productive and may trigger a rebound effect and no one should self medicate.
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One thing we can all agree is the medical workers are doing a great job and deserve our gratitude at this time. Thank you!
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Skanky von Tramp strikes again looking nastier than ever if I might say so, this time manages to piss of even her most ardent fans. She's had so much surgery her face doesn't even move anymore.
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also consider that the 3 places where this thing was deadliest, had prior TB outbreaks (TB is related in ~40% of hib related deaths, and maybe someone else remembers the indian paper that was ripped off the bioarxiv that noted a few HIV protein chains in this thing, or other reports of hiv treatments being efficacious)
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in which case this image means India is in trouble
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Teenagers playing COVID-19 ‘tag’ with the elderly: report

Irish teenagers are reportedly terrorizing the elderly by making a game out of spreading the coronavirus to the people it’s most likely to kill.

The Irish Times reported Monday that Senator Maire Devine from Dublin witnessed more than a dozen teenagers harassing senior citizens waiting in line outside a pharmacy, standing about 6 feet apart, as health care officials recommend

“There was around 15 teenage boys standing outside joking and laughing,” Devine said of the disturbing event that unfolded in front of her last week across The Pond.

According to the 47-year-old politician, the horseplay became dangerous as the teens became more rambunctious.

“Then they start playing tag with the older people, and running away and shouting, ‘Covid-19,'” she claimed.


“I was there and I actually burst out crying because it was only older people there,” Devine said. “I told them in a nice way to leave the older people alone and have a bit of respect but they weren’t listening.”

The Sinn Féin party politician reportedly saw police officers chase off the pack of kids, but the experience left her shaken.

“It’s almost like someone is making a revenge horror movie... the young’s revenge on the older,” she said. “It was just very scary thought yesterday for quite a while.”

The Centers for Disease Control warns that people 65 and older are most at risk from COVID-19, which is the illness caused by coronavirus. The CDC said senior citizens account for 80% of COVID-19 deaths in the U.S.

God there are some incredibly stupid thoughtless people in the world.
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Off-licenses (that's Liquor stores in the US, Bottle shops in OZ) to stay open in the UK: thank God for that!

Coronavirus: Off-licences added to list of 'essential' retailers

Off-licences have been added to the government's list of essential UK retailers allowed to stay open during the coronavirus pandemic.

The list was updated on Wednesday amid increasing reports of supermarkets are selling out some beers and wines.

The move came as bicycle and car parts retailer Halfords had to defend its decision to keep shops open.

Boss Graham Stapleton said the chain had "an essential role to play in keeping the country moving".

Halfords' Autocentre garages and mobile vans remain open, with plans for "partial store coverage" across its 446 shops.

Halfords drew criticism after it said it would keep some stores open after being named by the government as an "essential provider of services".

#BoycottHalfords was trending on social media on Tuesday.

Some Twitter users cited concerns over a lack of protection for on-site workers while others, including MSP Fulton MacGregor, questioned whether the business should be open at all.

In a trading update, the firm said: "We are committed to playing our part, but only if we can ensure the health and safety of our colleagues and customers."

It also said it had the "legal flexibility to remain open across the entire business".

'Vital support'

Mr Stapleton said that the chain had a part to play "in providing vital support to emergency workers, fleet operations and the general population as they travel for essential supplies".

It will also continue to take orders online via home delivery services and click-and-collect once branches have reopened.

Halfords added it was offering all NHS frontline workers a free 10-point car check during the coronavirus pandemic.

It comes as the government announced it would grant drivers a six-month emergency MOT extension under new regulation due to come into force on 30 March to ensure "frontline workers to get to work".

Other bicycle firms such as Brompton Bicycle, a folding bike specialist, have lent bicycles to staff at hospitals in London to help them get to and from work.

And some people on social media supported Halfords' decision to stay open during the pandemic.

Essential retailers

After strict new restrictions were brought in by government earlier this week, it issued a list of “essential retailers”, such as Halfords, that are allowed to stay open. They include:
  • Supermarkets and other food shops
  • Pharmacies
  • Off-licences and licensed shops selling alcohol, including those within breweries
  • Petrol stations
  • Newsagents
  • Bicycle shops
  • Home and hardware stores
  • Launderettes and dry cleaners
  • Garages
  • Pet shops
  • Post offices
  • Banks

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Trade industry bodies had previously said that bicycle retailers and repair shops had seen a spike in demand as people "clean the cobwebs off" their old bikes in an attempt to avoid public transport during the pandemic.

Jonathan Harrison of the Association of Cycle Traders told the BBC that "there had been an uplift in sales across the board, with larger retailers also reporting more 'entry-level' bikes going."

However, he pointed out that with more consumers staying in due to the new government restrictions, "it's difficult to know whether or not that trend will continue."

Halfords said on Wednesday that it expected sales to fall by about 25% in the new financial year, due to the impact of the coronavirus.

For its stores and garages that will close during the outbreak, the firm also said it would tap into the support offered by government to pay 80% of salary for staff who are kept on, covering wages of up to £2,500 a month.
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Add Minnesota to the list of States with Shelter-in-place/Shelter-at-home currently in effect.

I was at the food store and shelves remain bare: No potatoes, carrots, sausages, toilet paper, cat food or cat litter

A pound of hamburger was being thoroughly picked through same with milk, a case of paper towels and a case of Kleenex was all that's left of paper products.

Bottled water was OK and Soda was OK

Traffic is almost non-existent.

I received an e-mail about my bidet order that the manufacturer doesn't have a lead when they'll get more of the model I ordered, however; the company said that my order will remain open and I can cancel at any time.
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