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Old 31st January 2020, 23:44   #71

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Single OS on my main Win10 systems. I work in IT so I have other systems and servers set up with a number of other op systems and configurations for image building and testing purposes.
As mentioned in some thread, I probably would have kept with Win 10 but Win 10's Fast Start kept claiming ownership over all of my HD's. Meaning that after going into Win 10, and then back to Linux, I had no access to my D:\, E:\ (and other drives).

I guess what I'm saying is that if I could permanently figure out how to disable Fast Start (which supposedly can be disabled but not for long) then I might re-install 10. So far have found nothing on the net about how to do that.
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I guess what I'm saying is that if I could permanently figure out how to disable Fast Start (which supposedly can be disabled but not for long) then I might re-install 10. So far have found nothing on the net about how to do that.
do you mean "fast boot"?
if Yes - its an option in the BIOS settings not the OS and it can been turned on or off from the BIOS settings only.
this option is not new and can be found on computers 10 or more years old
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As mentioned in some thread, I probably would have kept with Win 10 but Win 10's Fast Start kept claiming ownership over all of my HD's. Meaning that after going into Win 10, and then back to Linux, I had no access to my D:\, E:\ (and other drives).

I guess what I'm saying is that if I could permanently figure out how to disable Fast Start (which supposedly can be disabled but not for long) then I might re-install 10. So far have found nothing on the net about how to do that.
Disable through the Control Panel

Press the Windows key on your keyboard, type in Power Options, and then press Enter.
From the left menu, select Choose what the power buttons do.
Under the Shutdown settings section, uncheck the box next to Turn on fast startup (recommended).
Click the Save changes button.
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do you mean "fast boot"?
if Yes - its an option in the BIOS settings not the OS and it can been turned on or off from the BIOS settings only.
this option is not new and can be found on computers 10 or more years old
No, not fast boot. Just checked and its actually called "Fast Startup" (forgot the "up" part) and was first incorporated into Win in Win 8 or 8.1. Here's a bit of info:

http://howtogeek.com/243901/the...-startup-mode/

From what I've noticed, if you just single boot you probably don't even know it exists. But it can cause real problems if you dual boot. I don't know about dual booting two Win OS's but it created real problems for me dual booting Win 10 and Linux Mint.

Again, I use Linux now almost exclusively. Only use Win for a few old programs which work fine for me and I'm not spending a few thousand dollars to upgrade. And the Linux alternatives just don't measure up yet.

I found the problem by going into 10 and doing what I needed then rebooting into Linux. In Linux, I would try to work with some file (word processing, database, .jpg, whatever) only to be told I had no rights to those files! What? These are my files and I need to manipulate them.

Started looking around and found out about Fast Startup. Found out how to turn it off and that would work for a while. But sometimes after going into 10 and then rebooting into Linux I'd find, again, that I couldn't access those files. Urrggh. Thats when I decided to ditch 10 and go back to 7. Have never had that problem in 7.

So this appears to be a bug in Win 10 which either hasn't been addressed or Win just doesn't care. I don't know which but suspect the latter.
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Disable through the Control Panel

Press the Windows key on your keyboard, type in Power Options, and then press Enter.
From the left menu, select Choose what the power buttons do.
Under the Shutdown settings section, uncheck the box next to Turn on fast startup (recommended).
Click the Save changes button.
Yes, I do know how to turn it off. The problem is it doesn't stay turned off. I think it may have something to do with the Win 10 update process.

There are times when I only need to go into 10 for a few moments to do something specific and then go back into Linux. I'm thinking that 10 is trying to update during those few moments but I don't have time to let it (other things more pressing). So I shut it down by pressing the power button until the machine turns off (yes, I know thats not the way you are supposed to do things but my time is more important than 10 making sure its updated itself).

Then, when I'm back in Linux, I find I can't modify any file. Well, thats not going to work for me so its back to 7 I go. As I remember, I tried turning off Fast Startup three or four times only to have it take control again and again.

Can't have that. Time is too valuable.
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Yes, I do know how to turn it off. The problem is it doesn't stay turned off. I think it may have something to do with the Win 10 update process.

There are times when I only need to go into 10 for a few moments to do something specific and then go back into Linux. I'm thinking that 10 is trying to update during those few moments but I don't have time to let it (other things more pressing). So I shut it down by pressing the power button until the machine turns off (yes, I know thats not the way you are supposed to do things but my time is more important than 10 making sure its updated itself).

Then, when I'm back in Linux, I find I can't modify any file. Well, thats not going to work for me so its back to 7 I go. As I remember, I tried turning off Fast Startup three or four times only to have it take control again and again.

Can't have that. Time is too valuable.
Found this to try:

Open an elevated command prompt
Type

powercfg /H OFF

Enter

Now you'll notice that the "Fast Startup" option has dissapeared
Done. Fast Startup is disabled for good. To revert this simply open an elevated command prompt and type

powercfg /H ON

Enter

This apparently also deletes the hiberfil.sys file which prevents Linux from using drives in read/write mode.
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Found this to try:

Open an elevated command prompt
Type

powercfg /H OFF

Enter

Now you'll notice that the "Fast Startup" option has dissapeared
Done. Fast Startup is disabled for good. To revert this simply open an elevated command prompt and type

powercfg /H ON

Enter

This apparently also deletes the hiberfil.sys file which prevents Linux from using drives in read/write mode.
I'm going to make a copy of this for future reference as I don't know when, of if, I'll ever go back to 10. But I do have a friend's computer here which I could try it on as its also a dual boot with Linux (trying to get most all of my friends to get rid of Win unless they can't.

Thanks for the info and I will give that a try.
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